How well does ice conduct electricity 1

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What goes on with SWX ;-)

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created on: Dec. 21, 2010 7:44 pm   <-- editieren="" zitieren="" --="">  

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So, as an electrical trick I would say (interesting question by the way) the following:

Ice is frozen water and water generally does not conduct electricity. It looks different when there are salts in the water, these can come out of the insulator make a ladder (albeit a weak one).

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Ice behaves like glass, it doesn't conduct when frozen ;-)

After the major chilblains epidemic in 1912
the ion protection society has the working hours
for ions in the water limited to over 0 ° C.

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... at least every year it is enough to make my bell button movable but inoperative. But that also happens every year when the temperatures rise again. Since you can't always repair everything immediately (and it's also quite cold outside), I check it out in spring (like every year) and lo and behold - then the doorbell rings again. But maybe that has nothing to do with ice - if I look in the spring, at least there is none in it.

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Quote:
Originally created by Thomas Harmening:
Ice behaves like glass, it doesn't conduct anything when frozen ;-)

So liquid glass conducts, so lets the current flow,
solid glass not, and frozen Glass not at all.

At this point, the question of when does glass freeze?

But I also cannot imagine that ice should be a ladder if it is frozen solid. In the case of dripping cones or melting ice, I would no longer be quite so sure, i.e. partially.

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At this point, the question of when does glass freeze?
approx. 600 ° if the thermal transition is considered to be freezing

If Not state of aggregation then Panta rhei ;-)

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if the thermal transition is considered to be freezing

Exactly, I thought everything below 0 ° C was considered to be freezing and not the state of iron or glass at well above 0 °.

Nevertheless, I find the question heavy, I suspect liquid water conducts its way through its constituents, solid water (ice) cannot do this or only to a limited extent and water vapor even less because it is pure water.

And the remaining salts can do little if they lack the emulsifier / catalyst in the respective aggregate state in order to be able to conduct electricity.

I hope I haven't given up too much rubbish now, it wasn't the light in physics / chemistry

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Or the other way around, think that the respective aggregates (?) Of the elements have an influence on their conductivity.

How far does the conductivity of water actually extend?
If I stand up to my navel in the water during the August flood and there is a short drink in the cellar of the neighbors, is that dangerous?

Or if I swim in the Baltic Sea and lightning strikes in the North Sea?

What is the approximate radius of danger from the head of water?

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created on: Dec. 22, 2010 12:20 am   <-- editieren="" zitieren="" --="">   Wilhelm Bruns
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Hello everybody.
My question was about normal tap water. I should have mentioned it.
Thanks for your efforts and answers
Christmas greetings: Wilhelm

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How do you get from ice to glass ...?  

Unfortunately, I don't have an answer ready either, but I just can
measure an ice cube ...

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